CA59 Irreducible Complexity Revisited



Having discussed the basic problems with irreducible complexity, I wanted to examine a paper published in the journal Protein Science that has been cited by the Discovery Institute as supportive of irreducible complexity and design. In reality, this paper is an incredible self-own and accomplishes the exact opposite of what the DiscoTute claims.
We also discuss Behe’s persistent misunderstanding of exaptation and natural selection, and read a defense of the notion of irreducible complexity.
I heavily relied on the work of biologist Kenneth Miller, and specifically Ed Brayton’s 2009 interview of Kenneth Miller, which was broadcasted on the Reasonable Doubts podcast. Here’s the link to that interview: https://player.fm/series/reasonabledoubtspodcast/rd33darwindaywithedbraytonandkenmiller
Some resources on natural selection:
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  1. Hi, Emerson,
    I’ve been listening for a few months now and enjoy CA first among all athiestic podcasts. I thought I’d chime in on this episode because you are delving into systems theory. It’s a good thing. Though I’d dig deeper into the notion that primary particles, which I assume you mean protons, neutrons, and electrons, are irreducible wholes. Even if you referred to quarks and other sub-atomic phenomena, that is still a leap. Sub-sub-atomic particles (sic). Is it possible quarks and bosons are themselves emergent wholes of a volatile substrate?

    A note about irreducible complexity. It’s my understanding that organisms can abandon systems after generations of disuse. A more efficient metabolism, for example, competing for resources in a cell will eventually supplant other fuel generators. This can be seen with bacterial cultures that go from one nutrient-rich environment to a different one. The end result of these adaptations would look irreducibly complex, but the line of organisms may have made dozens of adaptations and discarded the transitional ones.

    Anyway, I highly recommend any research from the folks at the Santa Fe Institute for the cutting edge research into emergence and systems theory. And evolution (i recently finished ‘The Arrival of the Fittest’)

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